JACK SCREW
on first drag
(Ruby) Do you remember or what do you call your first time in drag? And can you describe what that was like and what that looked like and whether you were still Jack then? Or whether that was like someone else?
(Jack) Yeah. Um, I like to call it my birth. Because it felt more like a birth than like a debut. The first time I really performed in drag it felt very intimate and very like… like… I think of my debut performance that's something and I think of my birth performance as something different. I remember so clearly my birth performance was at a party that was thrown by a friend of mine who was in the drag collective that I was a part of and it was everyone in the drag collective and we were all at someone's college house and we put up these decorations and it was like before or after a big show.

And I think I was just like not ready, or I didn't perform. Yeah, it was like too big. But we had this party and a handful of us did performances and I did one and tt was to ‘Good-looking Boy’ by Suki Waterhouse, and it was so fucking fun. I was shitting my pants. Yeah, until I started and I was like stripping and I was crawling. It was so fun to do that and feel like ‘yeah, of course I can do this’, like this isn't embarrassing.

Yeah, this is so liberating and fun and that was my birth. That was Jack. 

(Ruby) What was the what was the costuming and makeup like?
(Jack) It was very minimal. That's why it feels distinct like it wasn't even a full performance because I had a basic beat, you know my basic Jack look with the contour and the facial hair and eyeliner. But the rest of the whole thing was barely a costume.

I think I was pretty shirtless taped… I don't even know what pants I was wearing. I know I wasn't wearing shoes. I was inside.