CUNNING STUNT
on first performances
(Ruby) Yeah, do you remember your first performance?
(Cunning) I do, yeah. It's actually so funny you should ask that. Fordham University, I did a show there yesterday and we ended up doing a panel discussion afterwards.

It was the second time in 24 hours somebody asked me this question. But my very first drag performance was actually at a drag game night. So it wasn't just bingo, but it was like audience members had to come up and play a game that would, I don't know, play a game on stage.

And then they would have four newer drag artists perform in between the games. And I did a song called Teach Me, Tiger.

(Ruby) Okay, yes.
(Cunning) And I had Tiger Boxers. April, I cannot remember her last name.

It's a pretty old song, it's from the 50s.  And I, my best friend crocheted me, you know what a packer is, right? Yeah, yeah. So she crocheted me a packer.

And I sewed a little tiger, a felt tiger onto the tip of it. And that was my, I also did not start drag in the US. I started drag when I was living in Taipei, Taiwan.

(Ruby) Okay, cool. So was that your first performance as Cunning or your first performance as drag?
(Cunning) Both.

I've never had another character, I've never had another persona. This guy just took over my life over the last three years.